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First Things
Correspondence
(March 1998)
Copyright (c) 1998 First Things 81
(March 1998): 2-7.
Marian Mischief?
I am flattered that Richard John Neuhaus has commented not once but twice (While
Were At It, November and December 1997) on my Newsweek cover
story on the Virgin Mary. In that story we reported the international petition campaign,
signed by millions of Roman Catholics, asking Pope John Paul II to define as dogma the
Marian titles of Co-Redemptrix, Advocate, and Mediatrix of all Graces. And well Father
Neuhaus should comment since the story was both newsworthy and ecumenically important, as
the more than four hundred letters Newsweek received attest. But of all the
letter-writers and commentators, only Fr. Neuhaus managed so thorough a misreading of the
story.
In his first commentary, Fr. Neuhaus called the story "mischief"; in the
second it was a "scare." The latter comment was especially dubious since he was
merely calling his readers attention to a comment in a one-man right-wing
newsletter, catholic eye, which has a circulation somewhat shorter than my parish
prayer chain. When Fr. Neuhaus is wrong, it seems no voice is too weak if it amplifies his
error.
Essentially, Fr. Neuhaus error is of his own manufacture. He claims that Newsweek
reported that a papal definition of the new dogma was "imminent." Nowhere in my
article is that word used, nor is the notion implied. I did speculate that the end of the
millennium, 1999, would be a likely time for such a dogmatic statement, as part of the
Churchs jubilee celebration of the new Christian millennium. That is not
"imminent" as most people would understand the word.
So why the idiosyncratic fuss? The only reason I can see is that Fr. Neuhaus is worried
about the effect such a papal definition would have on his evangelical readers and
subscribers, who count on him to know whats up in the Catholic Church, and
especially on Bill Bright and other evangelical spokesmen whom Neuhaus has been courting
for his religious version of Common Cause.
Were I a courted evangelical leader, Id be wary of Fr. Neuhaus glib
assurances that the Pope has no intention of proclaiming the dogma. Why?
First, no one at the Vatican has publicly said he wont. The firmest statement
from that quarter is this single sentence faxed to Newsweek, in reply to my query,
by Dr. Joaquin Navarro-Valls, director of the Holy See Press Office and received after the
Newsweek article was published: "There is no study underway at this moment
in time by the Holy Father Pope John Paul II or the Congregation for the Doctrine of
the Faith on the subject of the possibility of a papal definition on this theme"
(emphasis added).
I note two things: that Navarro-Valls was careful not to suggest that such a study is
out of question for this pontificate, and that he did not respond to my full question,
which asked whether the Pope, the CDF, or any other organ of the Holy See had undertaken
such a study. The Vatican lives by loopholes and for very sound reasons: who can say what
might happen tomorrow and, besides, there are more than forty cardinals, including some
high officials of the Roman Curia, who have signed the petitions to the Pope in support of
the papal definition. Indeed, articles pro and con the proposal continue to be published
in Rome, as a careful reading of LOsservatore Romano shows, indicating that
the issue is very much alive. Dr. Navarro-Valls quite rightly did not commit himself to
more than he could honestly say, which is what a good press officer should do.
It appears that Fr. Neuhaus and I agree that a papal definition would be a very bad
idea. I trust he would further agree that the best evidence that a papal definition is not
under study is that, as I have since been able to learn, neither the papal Biblical
Commission nor the International Theological Commission has been asked to study the
matter. But note, these commissions do not make papal requests to them public, nor is the
Pope required to sound them out.
Were I an ecumenical evangelical who looks to Fr. Neuhaus for my information about the
Vatican, Id have lots of questions. Id want to know whyif, as Fr.
Neuhaus claims, there is no chance this Pope will define the dogmaJohn Paul II
hasnt done what any good Supreme Pastor would do: namely, tell the good (if
misguided) Marifocal Catholics who continue to rain down petitions on the Vatican at the
rate of four thousand a month that as far as he is concerned the action they are asking
for isnt going to happen, at least not on his watch. Id wonder what kind of
church organization it is that cant respond to the faithful but prefers, rather, to
keep them guessing .
Again, were I an evangelical courted by Fr. Neuhaus, Id want to know what
assurance in canon law there is that this Pope, who has used the Co-Redemptrix language
himself on more than one occasion, will not decidesay, next Tuesdaythat the
Holy Spirit has moved him to define the dogma. I realize that Fr. Neuhaus has friends high
at court at Rome (and not all of them are named Ratzinger), but Id wonder about
relying on one American priests palsiness with the powers that be, and about an
ecclesiastical system that cant respond to a well-intentioned request. In fact,
Id wonder how such a large and zealous (Marian) subculture in the Catholic Church
has gone unnoticed and unremarked upon by such a well-informed journal as First Things.
But then Fr. Neuhaus game is commentary and opinionreaction, not reporting.
Which is why we have magazines like Newsweek.
Finally, Id wonder why Fr. Neuhaus bothers to reprint such a silly argument as
put forward by catholic eye. Newman is definitely not one of this
Popes theological enthusiasms. Further, petitions to the Vatican have figured
in previous Marian dogmas, such as the Assumption, and the idea of Mary as co-redeemer has
been around since the Middle Ages. The problem with quoting the catholic eye man is
that he doesnt know his own tradition well.
So until the Pope deigns to respond to the petition, concerned evangelicals have every
reason to be wary of Fr. Neuhaus personal assurances. They should note that after
the Marian battles of Vatican Council II, Paul VI unilaterally (as was his prerogative)
went ahead and proclaimed (non-infallibly) Mary as Mother of the Church. John Paul II is a
different kind of Pope, one who has great confidence in his own theological outlook and
formulations, as well as a very high view of Mary and her role in the economy of
salvation. On this issue, which John Paul will have the last word? The one who heeds the
Mariological reticence of the council fathers, or the one who has not hesitated to invoke
her as co-redeemer? Concerned and courted evangelicals should stay tuned. And Fr. Neuhaus
might consider doing what New Testament scholar Raymond Brown and others have done:
namely, thank Newsweek for doing the Churchand evangelicals as wella
service.
Kenneth L. Woodward
Religion Editor
Newsweek
New York, NY
RJN replies:
Ignoring the personal digs, I address a few items in Mr. Woodwards continued
mischief-making: 1) The end of 1999 sounds "imminent" to me. 2) The quest for
unity among Christians is not comparable to Common Cause. 3) The sundry causes espoused
within a world of a billion Catholics produce innumerable requests for the Pope to do all
sorts of things. It is not customary, prudent, or possible for him to announce what he is not
going to do. 4) Mr. Woodward claims to know "what any good Supreme Pastor would
do," implying that John Paul II is a bad pastor because he does not tell those who
exercise their freedom to petition to go fly a kite. 5) The only thing that was "very
much alive" for a while in Rome was irritation with Newsweeks
sensationalist story. 6) In response to the Newsweek escapade, LOsservatore
Romano ran articles strongly discouraging the idea of a new definition, and none in
favor of it. 7) Mr. Woodward is right that the title of Co-Redemptrix has been around for
centuries, as have many other Marian titles in popular devotions. Campaigns for new
dogmatic definitions are also nothing new, although Newsweeks exploitation of
this one as news is perhaps novel. 8) As an informed Catholic, Mr. Woodward must know
that, contrary to the alarums raised in his article, the Second Vatican Council, notably Lumen
Gentium, makes emphatically clear that devotion to Mary is entirely subordinate to the
worship of Christ, "the one mediator between God and men" (1 Timothy 2:5). The
suggestion that the Pope is not wholeheartedly devoted to the teaching of the Council is
nothing more than a gratuitous slur. 9) As for Cardinal Newman, this pontificate has
treated as authoritative his argument regarding the development of doctrine, as witness
the 1990 instruction The Ecclesial Vocation of the Theologian, explicitly approved
by the Pope. 10) To suggest that John Paul II might act on a whim "say, next
Tuesday" to infallibly define a new dogma is simply, and contemptibly,
frivolous. 11) The idea that the Holy See is obliged to respond to a
"well-intentioned request" in a manner that satisfies Mr. Woodwards
curiosity betrays an amusing self-importance not uncommon to his profession. But enough. I
have known Ken Woodward for many years and have had occasion to take favorable notice of
his work in these pages. It is not worthy of him that in this instance he desperately
attempts to defend his mischief-making with further mischief .
Evolution and Faith
Skeptics of evolution will find Stephen M. Barrs "Untangling Evolution" (December
1997) disappointing, for he appears to adopt the usual agenda of the theistic
evolutionists, namely, untangling evolution from theological objections. The
real untangling that needs to be accomplished consists in separating pseudoscience,
the "blind watchmaker thesis" of evolution, from genuine or falsifiable
science.
Professor Barr admits that "historically evolution has been harmful to religious
faith," contributing to "undermining confidence in Scripture and promoting a
naturalistic view of man." The moral of this story for the Church ought to be:
Dont play with fire, i.e., evolution, lest we get burnt badly as we have been burnt
badly in the past. Father Brian Harrison relates a relevant anecdote ("Bomb Shelter
Theology," Living Tradition, May 1994):
During the days of the worker-priest movement in France after World War II, one of its
leaders, the Abbé Michonneau, reported that he had had to revise one of his
presuppositions when confronted with social reality. The movement started largely under
the influence of a fashionable left-leaning theology. The workers have become alienated
from Christianity mainly because they see the Church as standing on the side of capitalist
exploiters, right? Wrong. Michonneau found, when talking to real workers, that a
much more common reason given for unbelief was the conviction that modern science had
demolished the Book of Genesis.
Prof. Barr says that "if we can set aside the historical effect of the theory of
evolution" we will find that evolution "raises questions for faith, but not
difficulties." But we cannot set aside the historical effect. We live not in a
Platonic realm of abstract intellectual ideas, but in a real world unfolding in history,
where ideas have consequences and some ideas, like evolution, have devastating
consequences. The loss of the French workers is a difficulty for the Church, not a
mere question for faith. . . .
The danger of the blind watchmaker thesis is that it destroys the necessity of
God. And if the necessity of God disappears, God is reduced to a subjective projection of
prescientific minds. What Prof. Barr fails to appreciate is that evolution and creation
are mutually exclusive theories about the necessary being. In Richard Dawkins
blind watchmaker thesis the necessary being is mutation and natural selection. Dawkins
assures us that this blind watchmaker has made God superfluous, and that Darwin has made
it possible for us to be intellectually fulfilled atheists .
On the other hand, if God is real, there is no necessity for a blind watchmaker
mechanism. If we can explain the complexification of the universe by invoking an
Intelligent Designer, the evolution story is redundant. The stakes in the naturalism vs.
theism debate are higher than Prof. Barr seems to realize. As the case of the French
workers reminds us, when people become convinced that the necessary being in the universe
is a blind watchmaker mechanism of evolution, the Church is soon confronted with a death
of God movement accompanied by widespread apostasy from the Faith.
(The Rev.) David R. Becker
Saint Marys Catholic Church
Shade Gap, PA
Stephen M. Barrs "Untangling Evolution" struck a particularly
responsive chord, probably because I am, like him, a physicist. This is one of the rare
essays in which I could find nothing to disagree with. I should like to suggest possible
answers to Dr. Barrs enigma of dragon-fly copulation. Firstly, as a scientist I have
long thought of God as a master experimenter trying out various ideas in evolution.
Secondly, when contemplating such oddities as the platypus, echidna, armadillo, and many
fossil reptiles, I see examples of Gods sense of humor.
Robert C. Tompkins
Towson, MD
Stephen M. Barr replies:
I think that if Father Becker were to take another look at my article he would find
answered there many of the points he raises in his letter. I thank Mr. Tompkins for his
letter.
Catholic Contrition
As a Catholic psychologist, I share the concerns of Mary Ann Glendon in her
article "Contrition in the Age of Spin
Control" (November 1997). I emphatically agree that Pope John Paul
IIs gracious expression of sorrow for errors made by members of the Catholic
Church may provide enemies of the Church with ammunition for attack. . . . I
also share Ms. Glendons apprehensions about Catholics, ex-Catholics, and
many writers, reporters, and owners of the news media who will abuse their power
over public opinion by presenting biased reports about the Catholic Church and
its members. . . .
Nevertheless, as a scientist/practitioner with a specific interest in conflict
management, I believe that the Popes declarations of regret can be most beneficial
for the Church in the long run. . . .
In psychotherapy, if people dont examine their mistakes, or if they deny making
any errors, they "stay stuck in the problem." All the research and practice
literature on conflict resolution emphasizes dialogue, mutual understanding, acknow
ledgment of the merits of the position of ones adversary, admission of ones
own mistakes, efforts to make amends, willingness to compromise, reciprocal behavior,
planning, and follow-up. This is, I believe, a very good model to follow as well in
dealing with the danger described in Ms. Glendons article. . . .
I was delighted to read Ms. Glendons quote from Flannery OConnor, who wrote
in the 1950s in response to the detractors of the Church: "What you actually seem to
demand is that the Church put the kingdom of heaven on earth right here now." Well,
we all would like a magic wand to abolish all the inequities, fallibilities, and
frustrations of this all too imperfect world.
It is obvious to me, and I believe to Ms. Glendon, and hopefully to many others as
well, that of all the flawed institutions in this world, the Church and other religious
groups have come closest to achieving this exalted goal of a just and caring structure. .
. .
I believe the Pope is taking a healthy risk by his actions. Because the public forums
are often dominated by people with anti-Catholic tendencies, articulate enemies of the
Church will definitely be heard by many people. Lucid arguments by Catholics will probably
be received less favorably by the popular media. One of the answers to this disappointing
state of affairs is political, social, economic, and intellectual activism. Energetic and
courageous speech and behavior have had long traditions in Catholicism. Journals like
First Things provide a useful forum and support network for those of us who would like
religion to have a stronger impact on public life. . . .
Eleanor Cole
New York, NY
In regard to "Contrition in the Age of Spin Control": Who would have thought
that one short article could contain so much irony!
A man of courage and strong convictions, Pope John Paul II is no stranger to slurs,
slams, and misunderstandings from the media and even his own people. In the past, no
matter how controversial the issue, his staunchest supporters stood by his side, cheered
him on and valiantly beat off any attacks that might come his way. Suddenly, and quite
inexplicably, these same supporters seem to be cowering in fear, whimpering about the
anxiety theyre experiencing over the possible negative fallout that might result
from Pope John Paul IIs "plan for a premillennial public expression of sorrow
."
Decrying this whole notion of public contrition, Mary Ann Glendon quotes her friend
from Boston who facetiously commented, "Its getting to be tough times for the
dead." In point of fact, however, he was citing one of the traditional tenets of our
faith. Yes, the Church remains mindful of the sinfulness of her members even after death.
Designated as a time for the final purification of our souls, Purgatory is meant to be
"tough times." Moreover, if Ms. Glendons friend is genuinely concerned
about the souls of the departed, he might be interested to know that he can help alleviate
their suffering through personal acts of penance, prayer, and almsgiving .
With smug self-righteousness, Ms. Glendon then directs her anger towards those women of
our Church who have refused to accept all of the Popes teachings as outlined in his Apostolic
Letter to Women. Apparently, she is in a complete state of denial about her own
opposition to the Pope. Yes, she pays some obligatory lip service to the Popes
teachings in Tertio Millenio Adveniente, but it is patently clear that she believes
not a word of it.
While the Pope would beseech us to understand that "acknowledging the weaknesses
of the past is an act of honesty and courage which helps to strengthen our faith,"
Ms. Glendon feels compelled to remind us that there are "persons for whom no apology
will ever be enough," and that "expressions of sorrow over past shortcomings do
not require abasing ourselves before others, and certainly not before persons who are
unwilling to admit any misdeeds of their own."
Beneath these irrational, mean-spirited, and racist remarks lies yet another irony. Ms.
Glendon seems to find it impossible to forgive people who refuse to accept apologies, yet
she expects others to find it ever so easy to forgive people whom they feel bear some
responsibility for the loss of their loved ones.
Perhaps the most offensive irony of all is the one concerning "collective
guilt." Although primarily rooted in the sin of envy, anti-Semitism has also been
fueled throughout the centuries by our Churchs past teaching on the collective guilt
of the Jews for the death of Jesus. With callous disregard for facts or feelings, Ms.
Glendon exhorts her readers to "join with our sisters and brothers of other faiths to
resist all those who peddle the poison of collective guilt."
There is nothing intrinsically evil about collective guilt. In factwhen
self-imposed, following a careful examination of the collective consciencecollective
guilt can be a very uplifting and edifying means of spiritual growth for the entire
community. Collective guilt becomes "poisonous" only when it is imposed on one
group by another and then used to justify the hatred and destruction of that group.
Finally, in its instructions relating to the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation,
the Catechism of the Catholic Church states that "Penance requires the sinner
to endure all things willingly; be contrite of heart, confess with the lips, and practice
complete humility and fruitful satisfaction." How proud we should be that our Holy
Father has the courage and integrity to remain faithful to this great tradition. What a
beautiful way to give glory to God and make holy the Mystical Body of Christ.
Polly Goldberg
West Lafayette, IN
Mary Ann Glendon replies:
Many thanks to Dr. Cole for illuminating the problem of "contrition in the age of
spin control" with her insights from the field of psychology. Thanks, too, to Ms.
Goldberg for a letter that illustrates the problem to which my article was addressed.
Alas, a person who does not balk at ascribing collective guilt is not apt to flinch at
misrepresenting an argument or hurling intemperate epithets. Dr. Cole understood me
correctly: the Pope has adopted a wise and humane course, and it is chiefly up to us
laypeople to prevent his statements from being misused by persons who will never be
satisfied until Catholics apologize for their very existence.
Thanks for the Memories
Thanks to First Things and to Andy Bacevich for his reflections on our high
school experience in the early sixties ("Memories
of a Catholic Boyhood," December 1997). We were fortunate to catch
a Benedictine education at just the right moment, in the years before and during
Vatican II. The postwar generation that had crowded into religious life possessed
a remarkable blend of talent, self-confidence, and dedication. We rode the crest
of the wave. Too many years earlier, and the education they provided might have
been insufferably parochial; not long afterwards, it had moved much closer to
the American secondary school norm. As it was, we benefited from the best that
Benedictine tradition could provide, before the dilution and experimentation
of the next two decades had set in. . . .
Michael J. Hollerich
(St. Bede Academy, 65)
St. Paul, MN
When Pastors Were Pastors
Thanks to James Nuechterlein for his essay on "Pastoral Concerns"
(November 1997). We have come a long way with respect to the pastoral office
since I attended a midwestern Lutheran college. The college was located in a
town overwhelmingly Lutheran. The single Lutheran church dominated the social
fabric of the entire community. The pastor, a German immigrant, was never accused
of doubting his pastoral authority. In the 1950s the college enrolled its first
black student. When the townspeople caught wind of this, elders of the church
called a special meeting to determine whether that student would be able to
receive Communion in their church. It was, of course, understood that the Eucharist
was an absolutely essential element of Lutheran life, but these leaders no doubt
wished for some way the student might go to a larger city where there were congregations
for black Lutherans. After considerable discussion, all pointing to not admitting
the student, the congregation was ready to vote.
Then the pastor got up to speak. He simply stated that if this black student could not
receive Communion in the church, there would be no more Communion for anyone since they
would all be going to hell anyway. That was that. No vote. The student came to church and
Communion. Life went back to normal for the town and the college.
John R. Hannah
Bronx, NY
Smoke and Substance
I would like to thank Joop Koopman for his generally positive review of my book, The Smoke
of Satan: Conservative and Traditionalist Dissent in Contemporary American Catholicism,
which appeared in the December 1997 issue. I must confess, however, that Mr.
Koopman caught me a bit off guard. In previous reviews by conservative Catholics,
I have been denounced as a quisling and an idolater, my intellectual integrity
has been called into question, and, best of all, Ive been accused of trying
to argue that conservative Catholics are somehow satanic. (What else, after
all, could my books title possibly mean?)
In a refreshing departure, Mr. Koopman refrains from attacking my moral character. But
still intent on hurting my feelings, he attacks my writing instead: "The surfeit of
detail in Cuneos descriptions of characters and movements, a good bit of it not
terribly compelling and rather repetitive, threatens to deter all but the most diehard
readers." Here is a swipe that I didnt anticipate. To this point, reviewers in
the secular media, and even my harshest critics in the Catholic media, have agreed that The
Smoke of Satan is nothing if not entertaining. I wonder which descriptive details in
particular Mr. Koopman has in mind. The photograph of Jimmy Durante prominently displayed
in the reception room of a traditionalist monastery in New Jersey? The Janis Joplin song
played on a jukebox by a leading proponent of the Cardinal-Siri-as-real-Pope-in-exile
conspiracy theory? The prison love letters composed by Pope Gregory XVII of the Infinite
Love community? Or could it be those fifty blue-and-white-habited nuns of the Mount St.
Michaels community in Spokane? It may well be the case that none of this is
compelling. But repetitive?
Descriptive detail aside, Mr. Koopmans main complaint with The Smoke of Satan
is that it shortchanges James Hitchcock ("a man of genuine substance") and his
wife Helen Hull Hitchcock by paying undue attention to Catholics of a decidedly more
exotic stripe. I quite agree that James Hitchcock is a man of substance; and in a longer
or differently focused book, I would have enjoyed treating him at greater length. The same
can also be said of the talented polemicist E. Michael Jones, pro-life activists Monica
Migliorino Miller and John Cavanaugh-OKeefe, and a dozen other individuals who make
little more than cameo appearances in The Smoke of Satan. What disturbs me,
however, is Mr. Koopmans cavalier dismissal of so many of the other individuals and
groups that Smoke takes trouble to discuss. How does he know that they are merely
"eccentric" or merely of "fleeting interest"? As the history of
religion amply attests, todays fringe player might very well turn out to be
tomorrows prophet, todays dead-end sect tomorrows religio-political
juggernaut. This doesnt mean that Im personally placing any bets on the
various separatist and apocalyptic groups that are dealt with in The Smoke of Satan.
I am, however, open to being surprised.
So, what to make of all this? Less descriptive detail? Heavier on the Hitchcocks and
lighter on the extremists? I think I get it. Mr. Koopman is the former editor of the National
Catholic Register, and he appears to have wanted me to write a book that the National
Catholic Register would have been proud of. I wrote The Smoke of Satan instead.
Michael W. Cuneo
Fordham University
Bronx, NY
Joop Koopman replies:
It seems highly unlikely that any of the members of the extreme Catholic right
described in Michael Cuneos bookindeed, it is hard to speak of the majority as
actual members of the Churchwould actually end up as "tomorrows
prophets" or be harbingers of "tomorrows religio-political
juggernaut." Their views and paranoias are simply too far gone. What I meant to say
in arguing that the catalogue of bizarre characters ends up being "repetitive"
is this: There are lots of bizarre (and amusing) details and twists and turns to the
personalities and their papal conspiracy theories, etc., but there is little or no genuine
substance to be found in most of the groups, which end up blurring together.
As to Professor Cuneos conclusion that I would have preferred a more
pro-Hitchcock, et al., approach, that is not the case. It is just that there is more to
individuals like Hitchock, more substance that is worth analyzing and reading about,
whether or not you agree with the mans basic outlook.
Delusions About the Environment?
Richard John Neuhaus "Christ
and Creations Longing" (December 1997) asserts that environmentalists
(theyre all clearly radical "counterculturists") need to grow
up and "develop an environmental theology and piety that is coherent, comprehensive,
compelling, and true to the revelation of God in Christ." It can easily
be inferred from the polemics of this diatribe that someone who cares about
animals and trees doesnt care about humans (theyre anti-anthropocentric,
even). Father Neuhaus further suggests that rather than work together, we should
do some intellectual exploration "within a community and tradition that
provide necessary correctives by reference to the rule of faith and teaching
authority." We may infer that the environment will take care of itself
once the "people problem" has been solved. Of course, there may be
a short wait until this occurs.
This article leads me to better understand how Baruch Spinoza must have felt while
bombarded with epithets by virtually everyone for daring to think that there was some
relationship between God and nature. Fortunately, those who think like the deluded Fr.
Neuhaus are becoming rarer. . . .
Henry Schultz
Santa Clarita, CA
A Monopoly in the Public Square?
Richard John Neuhaus is disturbed that Christianity does not enjoy a monopoly in the
public square ("Gridlock in the
Public Square," December 1997). He apparently believes that non-Christian
religions should not merely accept minority status, they should be invisible as well.
If the choice non-Christians face is between a naked public square and one in which the
only voice heard is a Christian one, is it any wonder that so many, particularly Jews,
prefer the former over the latter?
Howard A. Gootkin
New York, NY
RJN replies:
It is a tribute, of sorts, either to Mr. Gootkin or to my writing, that he takes me to
be saying precisely the opposite of what I intended to say. The point of the author of the
piece on Christmas in the public square, and of my comment on his piece, is that it might
be helpful to remember that Christmas is a Christian thing. It is certainly of interest to
ask why some, including some Jews, find that suggestion offensive.
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